—u/Tipofmywhip —u/_shes_a_jar —u/Creepercolin200 —u/sonic_tower “Ozymandias is the greatest antagonist. He became a villain to save the lives of everyone on the planet from nuclear war and fallout. The premise of the end justifies the means at its core.” —u/cookies4me04u —u/kickthefuckit —u/Schmedlapp —u/clarabelle220 “I understand they tried to do it from the teen’s POV however it just doesn’t fit right. Like in real life he’s a predator and would be in serious trouble.” —u/Odd-Skirt4029 “The Captain Hook that has to deal with Peter Pan killing lost boys before they age out and become pirates? Or every other sanitized version of the story?” —u/Disorderly_Chaos “This — in the original version, Peter Pan is a monster (kidnapping boys and taking them to ‘Neverland’, but only until they reach a certain age). Captain Hook seems more like Chris Hansen if he had a penchant for the pirate life!” —u/Queen_Cheetah —u/JeffreyHugh “Squidward’s a minimum wage worker in a monotonous day job with a boss who explicitly wants him to earn as little as possible and cuts costs everywhere, while having a musician’s heart and playing his passion instrument to have some happiness and relaxing time for himself. He then proceeds to have his only time of peace and tranquillity stolen from him by a loud, inconvenient neighbor who doesn’t take care of his shit and makes fun of him for not being a pro at music. Most Spongebob episodes I watch nowadays have me rooting for Squidward to just murder those two morons before they induce a depression breakdown on our squid boy.” —u/RFB-CACN “Literal terrorist, but he got sympathy from pretty much every character in the movie, including those trying to stop him. Loyal leader, made concrete demands, and never actually intended on killing anyone.” —u/sonic_tower “He wasn’t even really a bad guy. He went out of his way to not kill innocents (even though he threatened to), and his mission was entirely noble.” —u/MrZeusyMoosey —u/Bamboozler522 —u/LunarRabbit18 I was thinking exactly this. Why give up your powers when everyone can have them? Only one member of the family having wizard powers seems unsustainable for the wizarding world. I get it that it was not very nice of her to trap her brother but she was 100% right. I really thought Alex would do it, I cannot understand how or why did Alex double cross her." —u/More-Masterpiece-561 —Hawu/thorne_Abendsen “I root for Luthor as he’s my favorite DC character. I like the continuities where he isn’t cartoonishly evil but a nuanced villain who understands how dangerous an all-powerful alien could be and does some morally dubious things to ensure humanity’s survival.” —u/Expensive-Argument-7 “Something you don’t understand as a kid watching it, but totally get as a parent. Shit, if i was married and came home to literal zoo animals in my house, I’d def go find James Bond and a nanny instead.” —u/Ntrpd_Bot001 “Sure the zoo part is bad, but worse is planning a secret birthday party for your kid that excludes your spouse. Even if it was a simple party without a zoo, that’s messed up.” —u/Ultrasod —u/Grizknot —u/ThePlatKnight “Totally. Seeing all of the gods in Omnipotence City or whatever it was called really had me wanting all of them dead. Especially Zeus.” —u/Reasonable-Exit-2811 And the best part is, while yes, by refusing to help George he leads to the world being destroyed, he wasn’t ever wrong. The end of the first movie has George learn that mankind caused a nuclear apocalypse whilst he was out in space, leaving the other apes to evolve in more or less a wasteland. And the second movie ends with George activating nukes underground in a last-ditch hail Mary and blowing Earth up. While yes, it could’ve been avoided if Zaius just helped George, why should he have? Everything from both the Apes’ religious beliefs and their knowledge of history shows mankind to be an evil, destructive species. … And the last thing Dr. Zaius experienced was just confirmation of his belief as a human destroyed not only himself, not only Dr. Zaius, but literally the entire planet." —u/DuskEalain —u/Longjumping-Party186 —u/ElodinPotterTheGrey1 “First Class, too. They save the world and are immediately betrayed, just how Magneto thought they’d be.” —ilovesharkpeople “He knew the hate humans had for mutants, and wasn’t as blindly optimistic as Xavier. True Malcolm X of the mutant rights movement.” —u/sonic_tower —TheRegular-Throwaway —u/Chasingtheimprobable “I also like the idea that she and Batman are very similar in some respects. They’re both committed zealots in their ‘war.’ They both have a certain class of living beings they’re trying to protect, and both recognize some Gotham inhabitants as innocents versus others as free game. Apart from Ivy being willing to kill, the major difference is that Batman just doesn’t care about plants that much. If he recognized them as morally important like she does, they’d be buddies.” —u/noisypeach —u/ZenithCrests “He’s accurate AF…well, except for machines being the cure. We cut down forests to urbanize all the areas on the Earth, ranch too much livestock, burn too many fossil fuels, and leave dirty diapers in the Walmart parking lot. It’s not supposed to be 116 degrees in the San Francisco Bay Area…EVER.” —u/jife740 —u/Basic_Distribution11 “The Replicants from Blade Runner. Used as slaves and given artificially short lives. They just wanted to live and be free.” —u/Chatty_Monkey_Don —gramercygremlin “Seriously, that kid was a fucking dick.” —u/Gimpstack “The live-action movie has one of those random scenes you see as a kid that sticks with you your whole life: Mr. Wilson has been cultivating this flower that takes like 40 years to bloom and then dies in ten seconds. At the moment it’s going to bloom, Dennis causes a ruckus and Mr. Wilson misses the blooming he’s been working his whole adult life for. Looking back, that’s like one of the most disturbing moments I’ve seen on film, partly because it gets more relatable as I get older. I mean, damn, 40 years…” —u/Grabatreetron —u/TheMustardisBad Dude was raised in the hood (aka a predominantly Black low-income neighborhood) and his family in Wakanda did nothing to support him or his dad. So, the fact that they, and other folks in their neighborhood, could have had financial support and didn’t receive any? Even though Wakanda had the means and the technology to help out Black folks in other parts of the African diaspora who were negatively impacted by colonialism? Yeah, I’d be a bit salty and feel abandoned, too. And on top of that, Killmonger’s father was killed by them, and he watched his father die in front of him as a kid. If that doesn’t fuck you up, idk what will, man. Some might ask, ‘Okay, so I could see where his resentment towards Wakanda comes from. Well, how does this tie into his additional resentment towards white supremacy, imperialism, and colonialism?’ Buckle up, buttercup, because it absolutely fucking does. Economic decimation, health crises, police brutality, the school-to-prison pipeline, and mass incarceration — and so many other systems of oppression stemming from white supremacy that still exist for Black people today — are here as a result of being forced into a country that our ancestors were forced to build. Just because slavery was abolished doesn’t mean its impacts went away (in fact, they just morphed in other insidious ways, but that’s a whole other can of worms). This is especially apparent in neighborhoods that I, and Killmonger, grew up in. Given all this, I can 100% understand why Killmonger would therefore grow to have this resentment towards white supremacy, colonialism, and imperialism; which would then fuel his rage towards Wakanda, and the abandonment he felt, which turned him into a ‘villain.’ These traumatic experiences on an individual level, and the heaviness of cultural and generational trauma on top of it all? This shit adds up over time. Wakanda is essentially a look at a hypothetical African nation that hasn’t been touched by colonialism in any way, shape, or form. Its existence asks, ‘How much could we have achieved had we not been decimated by imperialism? What would the health and well-being of Black people look like? What would a nation where we aren’t made to feel less-than look like? What would it feel like to have that safe haven knowing that there aren’t any larger structural systems trying to hold us, and keep us, down via poverty, mass incarceration, police brutality, etc.?’ We’ll never truly know. So yeah, Killmonger had some points. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk." —u/motioncitysoundwhack
